Godscrum: Episode 1 is Live
Episode 1 is live, featuring the interview with Pastor Dan Burchett. Forgive the audio problems in the interview (good lord Sager, you make it look easy).
So, the show ends up taking the evangelical church to school on the issue of how it deals with gays in its midst. Give it a listen, and feel free to comment on the content and to let me know what you'd like to hear in the future.
posted by Zeke @ 12:57 AM
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I really really really liked this first podcast of yours (really).
Pastor Dan sounds like a wonderful person to know.
One note on sound quality: how exactly were you conducting the interview? Because you came through a lot clearer than Pastor Dan, and I was wondering if it had something to do with the sound equipment.
Thanks, Nun. This podcasting thing is pretty cool.
On the recording side, I used a Sony headset that has a mike that is WAY too sensitive--big disappointment. I used Gizmo Project (a VOIP program) to call Pastor Dan on his office line. Gizmo has a record feature, so I just called him up, hit RECORD CALL and away we went. The echo on Pastor Dan's voice was because that damn mike was picking up his voice from my headphones and was feeding it back. Grrrr...
This is great. Thanks for doing this. Pastor Dan rocks...and so do you for exploring this.
If people are interested, they might want to explore gaychristian.net to see what a group of gay christians looks like in action...
There are people there who believe that God blesses homosexual relationships, but have chosen to wait until they are married to have a sexual relationship. Definitely not the picture most people have in their heads of gay folks. There are also some whose understanding of the Bible does not permit same-sex relationships, and they are committed to celibacy. Many of the people participating there have tried many things to change their orientation, to no avail.
Here's a link also to some good audio by Tony and Peggy Compolo, about their differences of opinion on this issue.
Anyway, thanks for letting me intrude here to offer my thoughts.
Christine
Christine, you're welcome back any time.
Justin at Gay Christian Network has a fine podcast that folks might want to listen in to as well. I'm a subscriber. And I thought he did a nice job on the Dr. Phil show, though TV can never do such a job justice inside of a ten minute or so segment.
Peace!
Thanks for the welcome, Zeke. :)
Yeah, Justin was a bit disappointed I think on the editing of the show. But from what I heard (my friend who was supposed to TiVo it for me fell down on the job), he did an awesome job with how he presented himself and for what he said (I heard the best stuff got edited out, though).
Again, thanks for the great podcast and good luck resolving the audio issues (although honestly, I didn't think it was as bad as all that).
I appreciate your thoughtfulness on this issue.
Here is some thought to what I was thinking while listening. My heart and soul is open to anyone chasing God because I believe if God is what your looking for then He will make your way to Him.
What struck me is the difficult balance between grace once again, and frankly doing what you want regardless of sexuality I am sure we can all come up with a list of things we need to change if not then we need to ask God to show us what that is because there is no perfection until Kingdom come.
Knowing there is no perfection until Christ comes back does not mean we don't pursue perfection in Christ and i worry without pointing fingers at anyone that we can get so far on the "Jesus has died for you " (and He has) that we almost give permission for the imperfection and then find reasons why it must stay as it is.
How hard it must be for those imprisoned for God's sake not to be able to see anyone they love or feel the comfort of home (persecution.com) but as Terry White did while he was being beat (telling his abuser about God's love for him) so should we not also be able to say I may not be gifted to do this or that but I am going to do it because its what God wants?
I know many do that, I am only balance checking in this post. Somewhere between hating all who sin and accepting all behavior because Christ died on the cross is the right way, while striving everyday to do better then the day before, going to God when we fail and not seeking accolades when we don't. Not being so comfortable in our forgiveness that we forget who we see in heaven will surprise us, and not being so un accepting of our forgiveness that we doubt the act of the Cross.
Its not easy to be something your not inclined ot be I was never good wife material but I keep trying, I have every excuse to be angry, judgmental and bitter but that is not who God wants me to be so I move past it. What we all want with our flesh will always be outside God's will and while we can't change it we can fight it and run to Him when we fail to get up and fight again.
Sometimes it really sucks to be human.
Love you the best I know how Zeke.
Your best is overwhelming, beloved. You make me wish I was a better man and believe I can be at the same time.
And I hear well what you're saying about not being casual about grace. I just feel again that we should be very reluctant to make assumptions about how is and who isn't taking advantage of grace. If they are, they are hurting themselves and God. If they aren't and we accuse them of it, then we have placed ourselves in the Judgment Seat and taken on responsibility and authority that wasn't ours to take.
As you know, while I remain unsure about the mysteries of homosexuality, I need to treat these seekers of Christ as brothers and sisters rather than to assume that Paul has commanded us to exclude them from fellowship because that's what seems to be inferred from some modern translations. They have a lot of struggles ahead in working out their salvation, and they don't need you or me throwing burdens upon them that aren't ours to impose.
Thanks for being with me on this journey. -K.
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