Thursday, November 03, 2005


Well, not really, but I've noticed lately that many of the blogs I visit regularly are focused on what--in my mind--amounts to something like this:

Point: As long as I exercise my Christian liberty in the service of love, everything is permitted.

Counterpoint: But not everything is beneficial, and that means pretty much anything you think you are exercising your liberty on. You are just looking for an excuse to sin.
Naughty boy!

Sure, that's quite a simplification. But it's all out there for you to judge for yourself. The Big One is here, with follow ups here and here. The Marshall Brothers chime in here and here. I won't reargue the points here, but if you want to go ahead. These days, it's a ringer for comment counts.

And sure... feel free to question my use of the photo. For the record, I'm feeling pretty cheeky about the whole debate and feel just played out.


At 4:22 PM, Blogger ninjanun said...

I strongly object to your picture in that there are no men being objectified and put on display so I may "exercise my christian liberty."

At 4:53 PM, Blogger dorsey said...

Hey, you'll always have my Halloween photo.


At 8:22 PM, Blogger nathaniel adam king said...

Was it Luther that said to love God and then do whatever you wanted?

I like Luther...

Friend, I would like your opinion on a post I wrote.

Also, if you could change the link on your site to I get a lot of traffic from your site, thank you.

At 9:01 PM, Blogger Zeke said...

Luther also believed in getting drunk and in married women taking lovers. Weird. He makes me look uptight. it is, and I'm on my way.

At 3:50 AM, Blogger nathaniel adam king said...

Zeke, I would be very interested to know your arguments against remarriage after divorce. I know we have spoken of this before, and I think you know I am working through this issue. It seems no one I can find agrees with my findings completely. I have found only one professor at my school that believes remarriage is never an option...I was just wondering your take on it, or perhaps how you argue against the arguments.

At 3:51 AM, Blogger nathaniel adam king said...

...oh, and Luther was a god. He never did anything wrong.

At 4:02 AM, Blogger Zeke said...

Zeke, I would be very interested to know your arguments against remarriage after divorce.

When you say "my arguments," I suspect you mean Scriptural evidence that remarriage after divorce can be blessed, and of course I have none. But God in his grace can and does bless it in reality, but Christians at all stages of the game--before, during and after marriage--should be aware of what the Bible has to say about it.

At 7:10 AM, Blogger nathaniel adam king said...

You speak sofystry very well. When I say 'arguments' I did mean 'scriptural arguments' as in where from Scripture do you arive your beliefs concerning marriage after divorce.

However, you must be a little rusty on this blessed dialect, let me offer a correction.

I wasn't necessarily wanting where you found that remarriage after divorce could be blessed...if I am understanding this correctly (I am new to this Zekian and all). I was mainly wondering WHY you believed that remarriage after divorce was not looked too highly upon in the Scriptures. I know that you had said something about an interpretation of Jesus (the literal interpretation), I was just wondering why you did not follow within the camp of the majority of evangelicals and interpret as they do Jesus' words...

That is all...

But congratulations on the speaking in tongues and all.

At 7:22 AM, Blogger Zeke said...

"It has been said, 'Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.'[f] 32But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery." (Matt 5:31-32)

I recognize that these verses are part of Jesus' "It has been said--But I tell you--" series whereby he is graphically illustrating to his listeners that sin runs so much deeper than we tend to realize. Jesus reminds us of both how very serious (better to gouge out your eye) and how pervasive (if you look at a woman lustfully... if you say 'you fool'...) our sin is. He clarifies for us both the depth of our sin and the height of our responsibility (love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you).

And, of course, he closes it all off with "Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect." A perfect ending to a difficult teaching, if I do say so.

At 10:52 AM, Blogger ninjanun said...

Oh hahahaha, Zeke! Thanks for the picture of Vin. Although I was really making a light-hearted jab at you about the societal ill of objectifying women, more than asking that you give equal indulgence to women's lusts...ah, never mind. Good post, as always. I may have to start posting beefcake and cheesecake pictures on my more "deep" blog posts, so that people will actually read them. ;)


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